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Andrew Welch's avatar

Bravo! This post covers a huge amount of ground in a relatively concise and accessible way.

"Climate change is the fever. Overshoot is the infection.

Treat the fever and it comes back. Ignore the infection and it worsens."

Exactly. My own work is to take this one step further. If Ecological Overshoot is the disease, then at the root of *that*, our flawed value system is like a compromised immune system.

We have two ways of measuring success: qualitatively - where success means we have enough; and quantitatively, where More is ALWAYS Better. Both have a role to play, but when the second completely trumps the first (as it does now) we get ecological overshoot. Number-based values have NO concept of sufficiency. And here's the kicker: The impossibly infinite pursuit of 'more' is at the root of every aspect of ecological overshoot.

You spoke of endosomatic energy (what a body needs to live), and exosomatic energy (what we use outside the body). The first form of energy has a qualitative measure - there is a clear range that defines sufficiency. More is not always better. Too much food, or water, or internal heat, is *not* better. Exosomatic energy is more problematic. Some of it is qualitative - what we need to survive - but the vast majority of our external energy usage is utterly wasted. Being faster, owning more, being wasteful. Extreme examples include AI data centres so that people can post pictures of themselves in outlandish settings, or have conversations with large-language-models instead of other humans, or can have a three-page essay summarized because they can't be bothered to read it for themselves.

Our exosomatic energy and resource consumption is where we have decided that More is ALWAYS Better. Some of the wrong turns were subtle. Cooperation and collaboration are prerequisites for progress, and in our economic models, one form of community group effort became the corporation. However, instead of creating such entities to accomplish a fixed task - instead of baking sufficiency into their definition - we programmed them to be entirely number-based, to always seek MORE as their ultimate goal.

Think about it - when we say their purpose is to "maximize profit", profit is a number. There *IS NO MAXIMUM*. I call this our Value Crisis.

If you don't like the fever symptom that is climate change, and you wisely decide to address the underlying disease which is ecological overshoot, you have to do so by improving our immunity to the values that lie at the heart of it all.

Diana van Eyk's avatar

You know, Ricky, there's a huge difference in the emissions between income groups, and I wish that would be addressed more.

I live frugally, am vegan, don't drive and have paid attention to energy use for a long time, and will continue to. But I wish the emissions of this group would be emphasized more. It's not about the number of people, many of whom don't have much of an impact on the environment, it's the filthy rich who travel around in their private jets, own many mansions and yachts and seem oblivious to the emissions they create.

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